[clue] CM for a small sysadmin.

Chris Fedde chris at fedde.us
Fri Mar 25 12:20:06 MDT 2016


I'm always surprised that rdist never comes up in this discussion. That was
the system we used at the old USWest and I brought it with me several other
places.   Having spent a year each with cfengine, puppet and ansible I'm
retuning to rdist at my next opportunity.
On Mar 25, 2016 12:14 PM, "David L. Anselmi" <anselmi at anselmi.us> wrote:

> I'm doing a new install on a laptop. Does anyone want to hear about how
> I'm doing it? Anyone
> interested in propellor[1] by Joey Hess?
>
> You may know that there are sysadmin tools to do configuration management,
> like puppet. A while back
> I read (on ifrastructure.org, maybe?) that they pay for themselves at
> about 3 systems. Well, I've
> had more than that at home for a long time so it's time to learn how to do
> that.
>
> I asked on BLUG what would be good tools to use. It sounds like "small"
> tools like ansible, chef,
> salt are in vogue compared to "large" tools like puppet or cfengine.
>
> Since I'm using Debian, Joey Hess is a smart guy, and I want poke myself
> in the eye learning
> something about Haskell, I'm going to try this with propellor.
>
> I also have a VPS at work that I admin. Since it's RHEL, I don't want to
> be the propellor RHEL
> person (at least not yet), and learning 2 things at once will help me
> understand their differences,
> I'm planning to manage that one with ansible.
>
> So if any of that sounds interesting to you, speak up and I can post my
> progress here.
>
> If I manage to create a blog I'll write how tos too.
>
> The laptop is being built from scratch. It looks like propellor is easier
> to get started on an
> existing system. So you could create a config for a machine, add one thing
> to it, and propellor
> would start managing that one thing. Then over time you could add more
> things and eventually
> everything you want is being managed.
>
> I'm not doing that. Joey has speculated that propellor is the new
> debian-installer[2] so I'm going
> to make it behave that way. I may use it incrementally on existing systems
> I have but I really want
> to be able to use it from the start so nothing falls through the cracks.
>
> That's not the way propellor has been developed. So I may want to build
> new properties when I find
> gaps. We'll see if I have the time for that, and if I can grok Haskell
> well enough.
>
> The VPS is already up and running, and had a fair bit done to it before I
> came on scene. So for that
> one I may take an incremental approach. Fortunately I can create new
> machines easily so I can make
> incremental changes that can be tested easily from scratch.
>
> So that's what I'm working on today (and probably by fits & starts going
> forward). Especially for
> propellor I don't see much on building a machine so I'm happy to share my
> experience if anyone is
> interested.
>
> Dave
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